Hybels and Schuller Together

Building The Harlot Church

The Following excellent article was written by Pastor E. L. Bynum

Bill Hybels and Robert H. Schuller are like two peas shelled out of the same pod, and they are helping to build the One World Harlot Church. They will be back together again at the Robert H. Schuller Institute For Successful Church Leadership, January 24-27, 2000. This will be held as always at the beautiful Crystal Cathedral of Garden Grove, California, where Schuller is pastor, and where his nationwide telecasts originate. I know that this article will infuriate the followers of Bill Hybels, but what we shall say is the truth, and that is more important than the approval of man. I know that I am writing the facts that such a meeting is to take place, because I have my very own invitation, along with the pictures of the speakers.


Speakers For This Conference

Hybels and Schuller are spiritual twins of compromise and distortion of the Word of God. They will share the platform for the above conference with Louis Palau, Evangelist from Portland, Oregon, who seems to have modeled his crusades after Billy Graham. He has held huge crusades in the U.S. and in Latin America. Another speaker will be John Maxwell of Atlanta, Georgia. Walt Kallestad, Pastor of the Church of Joy, of Glendale, Arizona will also be a speaker. Dr. H. B. London, Jr. from Focus On The Family (an associate of Dr. James Dobson), Colorado Springs, Colorado, will also be on the program. Another speaker will be Bishop Sundo Kim of a Methodist Church in Seoul, Korea. Of course Robert H. Schuller, and Mrs. Arvella Schuller will also be speaking.

Holland B. London is from Focus on the Family. May I suggest that London and Dobson should focus on the Bible for awhile. It might help them to associate with the right crowd.


Compromise Coverup

When some people read some of the articles on Bill Hybels, Billy Graham and others, they write to Hybels or Graham to ask if it is so. Of course they never hear from these men directly, but they hear from someone on their staff, and they usually give some kind of denial. Some people are so naive that they believe the misinformation that they receive from these men or their organization. For instance we published an article in the Plains Baptist Challenger, January 1998, exposing Bill Hybels and the Willow Creek Association which he headed. In a previous article we pointed out that Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, and John Maxwell had spoken in a Conference in Schuller's Church. When a man in our Church wrote the Hybels organization about this, they denied that it had ever happened. Of course the man that answered the letter was either misinformed, or he lied about it. I went to the Library and found the ad in Christianity Today, in which the Conference was advertised. Below you will find a part of the article from the Plains Baptist Challenger, January 1998.

Bill Hybels proudly gives Dr. Gilbert Bilezikian the credit for inspiring him to build the Willow Creek ministry. This French born professor did his undergraduate work at the University of Paris. Then he enrolled at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in Massachusetts, where he received a Master of Divinity degree.

After pastoring for five years in Albany, New York, Bilezikian moved on to teach in Wheaton College. (This is another hotbed of new-evangelicalism, and a synonym for compromise.) After accepting the presidency of a Christian college in Beirut, Lebanon, he returned to the United States in 1971. He soon joined the staff of Trinity College in Deerfield, Illinois (another school of compromise). It was there that he indoctrinated Bill Hybels into this new kind of ministry.

No doubt Robert Schuller, pastor of the Crystal Cathedral, Garden Grove, California, has had a tremendous influence on Hybels. Schuller with his perpetual grin, can be seen on many television stations nationwide. He believes that self-esteem is the new reformation, and wrote a book to prove it. On page 15 of his book he declares "Self- Esteem" and "Self-Love" are the same thing. His theology and his message are a thousand miles from being biblical. The gospel he preaches would not save a fly, much less a sinner.

We shall give some quotes from "Rediscovering Church," by Lynne and Bill Hybels which clearly show the relationship between Hybels and Schuller. "In April he (Hybels) read Robert Schuller's book Your Church Has Real Possibilities, which affirmed Bill's belief that one could reach unchurched people through the local church." (P. 51) "During the latter years of Son City and the early years of Willow Creek, Bill (Hybels) traveled periodically as a consultant to youth groups. One group with whom he had an ongoing relationship was the high school Youth group at Garden Grove Community Church in Garden Grove, California (now the Crystal Cathedral)." (P. 68) This is Robert Schuller's Church.

"DIVINE ENCOUNTER. In the fall of 1976, Bill (Hybels) took another trip to Garden Grovethis time to take the staff, module directors, and other lay leaders of Wil low Creek to a pastors conference there. During the conference, our entire entourage somehow ended up in Robert Schuller's office which at that time was in the upper floors of the Tower of Prayer. Bill told Dr. Schuller about our efforts to establish a church for the unchurched and about our seeker services and about our tentative plans to buy land for a future building. Bill asked Dr. Schuller if he could give us any advice regarding our next step.

"Dr. Schuller answered, `If you give God a thimble, perhaps He will choose to fill it. If you give God a five-gallon bucket, perhaps He will choose to fill that. If you give him a fifty-gallon drum, perhaps He will choose to do something extraordinary and fill even that. If God chooses to do a miracle, you'd better be ready for it. Don't buy a thimbleful of land. Buy a fifty-gallon drum.'" (P. 69)

They go on to tell us that Schuller was highly esteemed by them. "Had we been `puffed up' with the affirmation offered us by a man so highly esteemedthe only credible adult who had given us any encouragement?

"As I look back through the years I can't help but think that what happened that day was exactly what we thought it was at the time: a divinely staged encounter. We returned home changed." (P. 69)

"On a Saturday night in June 1977, Robert Schuller graciously came and spoke at our fund-raising banquet in the ballroom of the Sheraton Hotel in Des Plaines, Illinois...Dr. Schuller affirmed the value and potential of the dream to the 1,000 people who attended." (P. 70)

Down through the years the relationship between Hybels and Schuller has continued. They have spoken in each others churches on a number of occasions. A few months ago, we published an article from the Calvary Contender, which stated that Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, and John Maxwell had spoken at a conference at Robert Schuller's Church, and that homosexuals were there for training. Bill Mosley, a veteran preacher who is a member of Tabernacle Baptist Church in Lubbock, wrote Hybels asking about this. He received the following reply.

Regarding your recent correspondence:

Bill Hybels never attended or spoke at any conference for gay and lesbian pastors. In fact, Bill, Rick Warren, and John Maxwell have never done a conference together anywhere in the world, let alone the Crystal Cathedral.

This is an ugly rumor and I pray that you'll pass on the accurate information to other parties that might inquire. Thank you for checking with us first.

In Christ,

Paul Braoudakis

Communications Director

Willow Creek Association

Brother Mosley gave me a copy of the above letter from Paul Braoudakis. Then he wrote to the editor of the Calvary Contender who stood by his report. He had received his information from a pro-homosexual paper which clearly stated that over 100 people from the Metropolitan Community Church went to this Institute at Schuller's Church for training. It is possible that Hybels did not know that the homosexuals were there, since they would have been a small part of those in attendance. I am sure that Schuller would have known since they registered from the Metropolitan Church.

Mr. Paul Braoudakis of Willow Creek Association in the above letter said, "In fact, Bill (Hybels), Rick Warren, and John Maxwell have never done a conference together anywhere in the world, let alone the Crystal Cathedral." This gentleman, either lied or said this through ignorance.

When I read this, I went to the public library and looked at copies of Christianity Today on microfilm. I found the ad that I was looking for in the September 16, 1996 issue. That issue of CT contained a full page ad for "The Robert H. Schuller Institute for Successful Church Leadership." This meeting was to take place on January 27-30, 1997, and the pictures of the speakers were printed in the ad. The pictures and names found in the top row include, Robert H. Schuller, Bill Hybels, Rick Warren, and John Maxwell, along with others. These the same people of which Paul Braoudakis, Communications Director for Willow Creek Association said, "Bill Hybels never attended or spoke at any conference for gay and lesbian pastors. In fact, Bill, Rick Warren, and John Maxwell have never done a conference together anywhere in the world, let alone the Crystal Cathedral."

This shows you just how far these people will go to cover up their sin of compromise. Plains Baptist Challenger, January 1998.

What Does Robert Schuller Believe?

It is not difficult to discover the heresy of Dr. Robert H. Schuller, since he is also a writer. I have his book "Self Esteem, The New Reformation," published by Word Books, in 1982. When you read this book, you can easily see that Schuller is not only unsound in doctrine, but in fact he is an apostate of the first order.

Schuller said, "I don't think anything has been done in the name of Christ and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality and, hence, counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, uncouth, and unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition." --Christianity Today, Oct. 5, 1984 (Emphasis ours).

Please note that he says, that "to make people aware of their lost sinful condition," is unchristian. If we do not make people aware of their lost and sinful condition, then we are failing to do what the bible says. I do find that Schuller is denying what Paul taught in Romans 3 and elsewhere. Listen to the Bible:

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood:Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes." (Romans 3:10-18). "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). (Emphasis ours).

Paul was not worried about the self-esteem of a lost soul, he was interested in the eternal destiny of that soul. Schuller says that it is, "crude, uncouth, and unchristian," "to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition." You might wonder why he does not read his Bible. I am sure that he has, but he does not believe the Bible.

Please note Schuller's definition of sin. "What do I mean by sin? Answer: Any human condition or act that robs God of glory by stripping one of his children of their right to divine dignity." "I could offer another complementing answer, `Sin is that deep lack of trust that separates me from God and leaves me with a sense of shame and unworthiness.'" He further says, "Sin is any act or thought that robs myself or another human being of his or her self-esteem" (Schuller, Self Esteem, p. 14).

"I can offer still another answer: `Sin is any act or thought that robs myself or another human being of his or her self-esteem.' And what is `hell'? It is the loss of pride that naturally follows separation from God . . . A person is in hell when he has lost his self-esteem." (Schuller, Self Esteem, p. 14, 15).

Can you imagine anything more heretical and more deadly for the souls of men? Sin is loss of self-esteem. Hell is loss of self-esteem. Of course he has no Scripture to prove these heretical statements. Schuller is his own authority, so what does he need with the authority of the Scriptures?

Schuller's Definition of "Self-Esteem"

Here is his own definition of what he means by self-esteem, "I must admit that I am not totally happy with that word, `Self-Esteem.' Years ago I tried the word, `Self-Love.' I found the pervasiveness of a negative self-image so saturated the minds of persons that most people couldn't handle that term `Self-Love." I have tried others, `Self-Worth,' `Self-Dignity,' `Self-Value,' `Human Dignity,' `Positive Self-Image,' `Ego-Needs,' `Human Pride,' and none are perfect." You can see from Schuller's own words that Self-Esteem is really just Self-Love. This is so contrary to the Bible that it hardly needs any refuting. However, I will give one passage that completely disproves his false theory. "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away" (I Tim. 3:1-5). (Emphasis ours) Here is God's warning for the last days, and self-love is set forth as one of the vile and wicked sins that will be evident.

Other Unscriptural Doctrines

What is Schuller's definition of the new birth? Listen to his own words: "To be born again means that we must be changed from a negative to a positive self-imagefrom inferiority to self-esteem, from fear to love, from doubt to trust" (Schuller, Self-Esteem, p. 68).

According to this heretic, Jesus never called a person a sinner. "While Christ was on earth, he remained sinlesshe never shamed himself or others. He never called any person `a sinner'"

(Schuller, Self Esteem, p. 100). The following Scripture refutes his words. "And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee" (Matt. 9:2). Why did this man need his sins forgiven, if he was not a sinner? I guess he must have lost his Self-Esteem. Paul addresses the sin question in many places, but we shall quote only on verse. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3:23).

We always thought that Jesus Christ was the incarnate Son of God, but Schuller has a different idea. "Christ is the Ideal One, for he was Self-Esteem Incarnate" (Schuller, Self Esteem, p. 135).

Schuller Admires The Pope and Catholicism

His admiration for the Pope of Rome and for the Roman Catholic Church is amazing indeed. Maybe he is hoping to be the Pope's successor, or perhaps he hopes to turn the Crystal Cathedral into Vatican II (just kidding). Listen to his words. "I found myself immediately attracted to Pope John Paul II when, upon his election to the Papacy, his published speeches invariably called attention to the need for recognizing the dignity of the human being as a child of God" (Schuller, Self Esteem, p. 17).

Schuller often participates in ecumenical efforts with Catholics. David Cloud sent an email which included the following: "Schuller frequently speaks at conferences with Roman Catholic priests and bishops. He spoke at the `Washington for Jesus' rally on April 28, 1980, with priests John Bertolucci, John Randall, and Michael Scanlon. In October 1987, Schuller spoke at a Roman Catholic conference called the Jesus Day VII, in Chicago. Catholic priests Matthew Fox, John Powell, and Richard McBrien also spoke (National & International Religion Report, Sept. 21, 1987). In August 1988, Schuller participated in the ecumenical Congress '88, in Chicago. The Archbishop of Chicago, Joseph Cardinal Bernardin, brought the opening address of the Congress. This faithful son of Rome was introduced as a `warm, caring, Christ-honoring, Christ-like brother' (Frank Bumpus, `New Evangelicals United with Catholics and Liberals,' (F.B.F. News Bulletin, Nov.-Dec. 1988)."

Cloud further stated: "Schuller participated in the publication of a series of books on evangelism co-sponsored by Tyndale House and the Paulist National Catholic Evangelization Association. The first book in the series, What Christians Can Learn from One Another about Evangelizing Adults, included articles by Schuller, Pope John Paul II, Archbishop Joseph Bernardin, as well as others."

"In March 1998, Schuller visited Pope John Paul II en route to a Church Growth conference in Sicily. It was `the fourth time Schuller and the Pope had met, hand-to-hand, heart-to-heart at the Vatican' (Foundation, May-June 1998). The Pope expressed interest in how their churches could work together in the Vatican's preparation for the Year 2000 Jubilee celebrations" (Calvary Contender, 8-15-98).

Why Is Hybels Cozy With Schuller?

It must be that they are in agreement. "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" (Amos 3:3). The followers of Hybels claim that he is a sound Bible believing evangelical. I could never believe that, as long as he associates with Robert H. Schuller. No real Bible believer would ever be associated with an apostate such as the man from the Crystal Cathedral.

Someone needs to ask these people a good Bible question. "And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD" (II Chron. 19:2).

It is hard for me to understand why any Bible believer could follow men such as Bill Hybels, John Maxwell and Rick Warren, when they are speaking for a man like Schuller. Many Baptist (?) Churches are adopting the methods of Bill Hybels, John Maxwell and Rick Warren. This is strange indeed that they would follow people who are in bed with Schuller. After all, Schuller is in bed with the Pope of Rome. Many Baptist churches have followed the advice of these men and dropped the name Baptist. Of course when they are no longer Baptists, they should drop the name Baptist. Many Southern Baptist Churches are following the "purpose driven church" philosophy of Hybels and Warren.

What is really bad, is that some Independent Baptist pastors are running off to these conferences where all this heresy is introduced. Soon their churches will be going down the same road that new-evangelicals have already followed. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil . . . " (Ex. 23:2).


Tabernacle Baptist Church

E. L. Bynum, Pastor

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Lubbock, Texas 79411

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